Frequently Asked Questions
I haven’t found my bike on lists at your web site. Are you able to make ignition for it?
Mostly yes. You should
send us mail with question.
What is the price of ignition for my
bike?
First step is to
qualify convenient ignition. It is possible to do from list of mounting
instruction or by sending question by email (ignitech@ignitech.cz). Our price policy
is long term stable. Price list is at (www.ignitech.cz/english/price
list eur.pdf). You can negotiate prices of customized design by email.
What is price of software?
Software for setting
of programmable ignition is part of delivery. You get is on CD-ROM.
What is warranty?
Warranty is 2 years.
It is not for wrong usage of products. (for example wrong wiring of coils
for capacitive ignition).
What details you need for production
of ignition?
We need mostly only
type of bike. For example: Yamaha XTZ660 and year of manufacture.
Some bike has more
modification. For this bike is useful if you could send us:
a) bike type, and
year of manufacture
b) Photo of original
ignition, photo of connectors, color of wires on particular pins.
c) Wiring diagram if possible.
d) Photo of pick up
system (pick up and pulse rotor) in TOP position. This we need only seldom.
e) Another parameters for example maximum
revolution (limiter) etc.
How can I buy?
a)
Send us mail with your demand and
information you have and address.
b)
We ask you about another information
if we need them.
c)
If all details are clear, we send
you invoice.
d)
You can pay to our bank account or
by PayPal.
e)
We send you ignition by mail.
How much is transport?
We send good by
airmail. Prices are
|
weight |
1 kg |
2 kg |
|
EU states (with VAT 19%) |
14 Euro |
19Euro |
|
States out of EU |
19 Euro |
23 Euro |
Postage and packing for weight above 2 kg is dependent to weight, speed,
destination. Contact us please
We muss clear
(declare) goods out of EU. We charge for this 25 Euro.
What language and how can I
communicate with firm IGNITECH?
It is possible in
English, German and CYech. We prefer if
you send us E-mail
Software display message „Unmatched
version of PC and Ignition programs!”
Ignition unit sends
number of its software version (e.g. IGN=30). PC software sends its software
version too (e.g. EXE=36). It is necessary to use software with same version
number. This software is delivered with unit on CD-ROM. If you don’t have this
software you can download it from our web site. (www.ignitech.cz/key/key.htm).
What is “Base advance“?
We demonstrate it for
mostly used one lobe rotor and one pick up. (See picture in TOP position).
Ignition after start and by low revolution to first rpm point in advance map
spark in the time when pick up is at the end of lobe. Advance in this time is
base advance.
It is not possible to
change “base advance” by software. It is determined by position of rotor and
pickup in certain bike. Base advance is usually about 10 degree (from 3 to 22
degree).
This value has to be
set to ignition by PC softare. When base advance is properly set, than advance
in advance map agree with real advance made by ignition.
Rotating speed is
changing in low revolution very much. Sparking at “end of Lobe” make advance
stabile. It is mostly convenient to use it also by idle revolution.
It
is possible to set up excitation time of inductive coil by Ignitech ignitions?
Excitation time can be changed only in “Special
setting” by inductive ignition. There are two setting. Short is 1ms and one
eighth of revolution time. Long is 3 ms one eighth of revolution time. This
time is set automatically by selection of certain bike. This time is set
according common coil type used on this bike. Short excitation time is for
inductive coils with primary resistance less than 2 Ohm and inductance is less
than 6 mH. Long excitation is set for
coil with higher resistance and or higher inductance.
If long
excitation is set for coil with low resistance and low inductance coils are
overheated and can be destroyed. If short excitation is set for coil with high
resistance and high inductance spark energy is lower.
Ignitech injection units have no possibility to
set excitation time. It is set automatically by selection of certain bike. This time is set according common coil type
used on this bike.
Can
I upgrade ignition with break contact to ignition without contact by Ignitech
ignition?
Yes. But you muss make on motor some mechanical
and electrical changes. You muss replace break contacts with appropriate pickup
system. It consists from inductive pickup and pulse rotor. We produce pulse
rotor with diameters 70 or 50 mm. Thickness is 3 mm and center hole diameter is
8 mm. (We can make also another rotors according demand). You muss connect
ignition according manual from us. Original inductive coils can be used.
I
have faulty magnetic winding. What is solution?
Most one-cylinder motors use capacitive
ignition that is supply from magnetic winding. (Ignition type ACCDI). Faulty
magnetic winding causes mostly low or no supply voltage. It this case
resistance of winding is mostly lower or higher and inductance is lower.
Solution is to use capacitive ignition supplied from 12V (battery) (ignition
type DCCDI).
Is ignition from Ignitech with same
connector as original ignition?
Mostly yes. We have
most of connectors used on bikes. We can make some others connector by myself.
If we don’t have original connector and are not able to make it, customer has
to cut original connector in engine wiring harness and replace it with
connector delivered with ignition according manual from us.
It is possible to use pick up from
you in oil?
No. We offer only
pick-ups that cannot be used in oil.
What is advance between map points?
Unit make between
points linear interpolation.
Example:
For 2 000 rpm is
advance set to 10 degree.
For 3000 rpm is
advance set to 20 degree.
Advance at 2400 rpm is
14 degree.
Ignition has dropouts (failure).
There can be more
reasons. Some of them:
a) Bad signal from
pick up. It can be caused by radial clearance.
b) Supply voltage
failure. Supply voltage muss be stabile without falls.
c) Interference
(disturbance) – We recommend to use plugs or plug connectors with resistor.
Software display message „No
connection with PC”
There can be more
reasons. Some of them:
a) Ignition unit is
not supplied. Unit muss be supplied to be able communicate with PC. You muss
switch on bike supply switch or you muss connect ignition to battery (+12V pin
and ground pin).
b) You set bad COM
number. New version of software has setting “Com auto”. In this case software
set comport number by itself.
c) Another program use
COM port.
d) You use USB-COM
adapter by you don’t have installed driver for it.
e) If you are using
ignition with USB connector on ignition we use interface from firm Prolific.
Driver has to be installed in some cases. Running of installation file makes
it.
Version for W98, XP,
2K is at - www.ignitech.cz/usb/pl2303/pl-2303_driver_installer.exe.
Version for Windows Vista is on - www.ignitech.cz/usb/pl2303/vista_installer.exe.
f)
Software at PC and software in unit
are not compatible.
g)
You have to have cable with min.
connection - pins 2-2, 3-3, 5-5 (Canon 9).
What is difference between Basic a
Full version of injection unit?
a) FULL VERSION -
contains all function described in manual..
b) BASIC VERSION - don’t contains additional racing function
(CLUCH MASTER, START LIMITER, TACHO/LAMBDA,
GEAR SHIFT LIGHT, N2O). Limiter cannot be adjusted above to value of original
unit.
BASIC VERSION is
possible to upgrade to FULL VERSION (for additional payment).
Is unit set precise to my bike or I
muss correct this injection map by myself?
We have accurate map
for some bikes. Setting for most bikes is approximate only. It is make by
function “New”. We don’t advise to do tuning without appropriate tools and
experience. There are special firm that can do it. We can do it to.
What is difference between
capacitive and inductive ignition?
a) Capacitive ignition
– There is capacitor in this ignition unit. It is charged to about 300V. This
capacitor is connected to primary inductive coil winding at the time of spark.
One outlet of primary winding is connect to ignition unit, second is connected
to ground.
b) Inductive ignition – unit connects by
transistor primary winding to 12 V. Current start to increase. Transistor switches
off in the time of ignition. The voltage in primary winding gets to 300V by
induction. . One outlet of primary winding is connect to ignition unit, second
is connected to 12V.
Attention
!!!
If capacitive ignition
is connected in the way that inductive ignitions use (coil to +12V),
ignition can function some time but it is danger of damage of ignition coil and
ignition. Damage is caused by permanent current from +12V through ignition
reverse diode in ignition to ground.
If inductive ignition
is connected in the way that capacitive ignitions use (coil to ground),
ignition doesn’t work but there is no danger of damage.
What is difference between standard
and full version of TCIP4?
a)
Standard version has 2 channels.
Full version has 4 channels.
b) Full version has servo
controller. Standard version hasn’t.
What is difference between TCIP4 and
Racing 3?
a)
Racing 3 is always 4 channels only
TCIP4 full is 4 channels.
b)
Racing 3 has for every function separate input. TCIP4 has only 2
inputs 2. Function of each input has to be set by PC software.
c)
Racing 3 has N2O controller, TCIP4 hasn’t.